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Several Days ago I posted what I thought to be a rather eloquently packed statement of Christian faith by David Bentley Hart hereKevin Edgecomb was not quite so fond of the same passage and Nick Norelli agrees.  Read Kevin’s post on it for his points.  Here is my take on each of his points:

  1. The reference to κυριος Ιησους is quite so a confession of a certain understanding of Jesus as Christ - an eschatological Lord.  Quite in keeping with the Orthodox understanding of Jesus as Pantokrator.
  2. To say that the peace of Christ was an attribute that suffered on the cross would vanquish a kenotic soteriology and seems to ignore the cry of dereliction.  Christ certainly was not at peace then as the Gospels clearly illustrate.
  3. I think Vladimir Lossky (1957) can answer this better: “In a certain sense all theology is mystical, inasmuch as it shows forth the divine mystery: the data of revelation.  On the other hand, mysticism is frequently opposed to theology as a realm inaccessible to understanding, as an unutterable mystery, a hidden depth, to be lived rather than known; yielding itself to a specific experience which surpasses our faculties of understanding rather than to any perception of sense or of intelligence” (The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church).  Clearly not “incomprehensible polysyllabic pseudo-postmodern piffle”.  Hart’s “incomprehensibility” is a function of the Eastern focus on mystery through experience it seems.
  4. Another perspective: God’s judgment has finally befallen the world and the Cross is the decisive revelation of that judgment to us, but we have not experienced the final judgment “at the end of the age”.  It is a future event with present effects.  I tend to like Bultmann’s expression here and hart does not seem to be outside of that understanding in this passage.  Pannenberg also has an interesting spin on this.  It is a real eschaton that has occurred and “is being revealed” (Rom. 1:17-18) to us.  Kevin might not be coming from this perspective, but I think the evolutionary paradigm for the eschatological event of Christ’s second coming has dome damage to the notion that the victory has been won in order to establish the eschatological Kingdom of God that “is being revealed” rather than one that will simply happen in the future.
  5. I understand the sentiment with #5, but to say that the man Jesus was not vindicated in the resurrection of the body seems to miss the point of what Hart is saying here.  Two natures, one substance.  Again, the event of the cross viewed eschatologically, as Hart is doing here, has different meaning than one event in time along a static timeline of history.  History, after all, does not exist in the mind of God unless He wills it.

I think there is a lot going on here in one passage.  If it sparks such a conversation, the rest of the book has quite a bit of potential for the patient of mind.  I think what Hart and Zizoulas have done to bring Eastern Orthodoxy into the conversations following the postmodern debates from the 80’s and 90’s are important to reconstruct those ideas on different bases.  And somehow I think it is a better place from which to work out those ideas to a place that is not utterly devoid of meaning or purpose.

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    I totally understand that problem with Hart. He is very continental and rather Western in his approach. But I do think that he is doing something of important value to bridge the chasm between the traditions. I still have to read more, but that seems to be the case. And I agree that I would never read Hart as any kind of primer on Eastern Orthodoxy since that is not what he is doing with this volume at all - not even close.

    Lossky seems on target with the tradition as does Ware who I find to be very eloquent. I also like Schmemann who really does a nice job with the pastoral function of doctrine (like Ellen Charry's work on this with the patristics which is nothing short of fantastic) and Peter Gilquist for the Evangelical Orthodox view in the US.
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    Drew, Zizioulas is quite the different kettle of fish, as they say. For a good handle on Eastern Orthodoxy's engagement with contemporary philosophical trends, you'll be much better off reading him than Hart. The praise for Zizioulas is, so far as I've seen, unanimous. That for Hart is not. With Metropolitan John's writing I have not the slightest quibble, but rather I am quite awed by it. Not so with Hart. His Eminence's thought is by some considered to be reflective of the best in European philosophy, not simply Orthodox theology. The same has not been said of Hart. Even before Zizioulas, however, you should get a good handle on Lossky's Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church. I would also recommend two others by Fr Andrew Louth: Discerning the Mystery (which is unfortunately difficult to find at an affordable price) and The Origins of the Christian Mystical Tradition (the 2007 edition with an important afterword). So: Lossky, then Louth, then Zizioulas, with Hart last if at all. You can easily get along without Hart, in fact. And if you read them and internalize their ideas in this order, you'll find Hart not to be quite so impressive, in the end. Reading him is certainly not so necessary as some make it seem.

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