Comments on: reform realism: the middle way to education reform http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2008/12/18/reform-realism-the-middle-way-to-education-reform/ Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:30:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Danny Kam http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2008/12/18/reform-realism-the-middle-way-to-education-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-6105 Danny Kam Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:22:48 +0000 http://notes-from-offcenter.com/?p=2100#comment-6105 Yes. I am in teacher education right now. That is why I am saying it is desperately needed. There are so many things wrong with the system and things we need to fix. Yes. I am in teacher education right now. That is why I am saying it is desperately needed. There are so many things wrong with the system and things we need to fix.

]]> By: Drew Tatusko http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2008/12/18/reform-realism-the-middle-way-to-education-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-6104 Drew Tatusko Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:15:38 +0000 http://notes-from-offcenter.com/?p=2100#comment-6104 More tests go against what teachers learn about teaching and assessment in teacher education! That's why I agree with you, and this proposal, that if they need tests, making them more locally appropriate while maintaining variables that measure the same competencies is key. The problem, one of them, with NCLB is that it measures content knowledge and not competencies meaning that teaching to the test, the inevitable outcome of it, kills off more in depth analysis of what students can actually do with that knowledge. It just cannot work even if the goals are admirable. More tests go against what teachers learn about teaching and assessment in teacher education! That's why I agree with you, and this proposal, that if they need tests, making them more locally appropriate while maintaining variables that measure the same competencies is key. The problem, one of them, with NCLB is that it measures content knowledge and not competencies meaning that teaching to the test, the inevitable outcome of it, kills off more in depth analysis of what students can actually do with that knowledge. It just cannot work even if the goals are admirable.

]]> By: coldfire136 http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2008/12/18/reform-realism-the-middle-way-to-education-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-4698 coldfire136 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:22:48 +0000 http://notes-from-offcenter.com/?p=2100#comment-4698 Yes. I am in teacher education right now. That is why I am saying it is desperately needed. There are so many things wrong with the system and things we need to fix. Yes. I am in teacher education right now. That is why I am saying it is desperately needed. There are so many things wrong with the system and things we need to fix.

]]> By: Drew Tatusko http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2008/12/18/reform-realism-the-middle-way-to-education-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-4697 Drew Tatusko Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:15:38 +0000 http://notes-from-offcenter.com/?p=2100#comment-4697 More tests go against what teachers learn about teaching and assessment in teacher education! That's why I agree with you, and this proposal, that if they need tests, making them more locally appropriate while maintaining variables that measure the same competencies is key. The problem, one of them, with NCLB is that it measures content knowledge and not competencies meaning that teaching to the test, the inevitable outcome of it, kills off more in depth analysis of what students can actually do with that knowledge. It just cannot work even if the goals are admirable. More tests go against what teachers learn about teaching and assessment in teacher education! That's why I agree with you, and this proposal, that if they need tests, making them more locally appropriate while maintaining variables that measure the same competencies is key. The problem, one of them, with NCLB is that it measures content knowledge and not competencies meaning that teaching to the test, the inevitable outcome of it, kills off more in depth analysis of what students can actually do with that knowledge. It just cannot work even if the goals are admirable.

]]> By: coldfire136 http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2008/12/18/reform-realism-the-middle-way-to-education-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-4682 coldfire136 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:22:33 +0000 http://notes-from-offcenter.com/?p=2100#comment-4682 I don't think more tests are the answer.<br><br>But, if they are, we have to do them right and spend the money needed to really reform the stupid tests that kids are now given for better ones. This will require paying teachers more to actually grade and learn how to how grade these more complex tests. I am all for this, but you will have quite a battle trying to get teacher's to shoulder that burden. I don't think more tests are the answer.

But, if they are, we have to do them right and spend the money needed to really reform the stupid tests that kids are now given for better ones. This will require paying teachers more to actually grade and learn how to how grade these more complex tests. I am all for this, but you will have quite a battle trying to get teacher's to shoulder that burden.

]]> By: the middle way to education reform — The Liber(al)tarian Network http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2008/12/18/reform-realism-the-middle-way-to-education-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-4659 the middle way to education reform — The Liber(al)tarian Network Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:47:20 +0000 http://notes-from-offcenter.com/?p=2100#comment-4659 [...] Originally posted at Notes From Off Center. [...] [...] Originally posted at Notes From Off Center. [...]

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