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		<title>By: GraceJunkie</title>
		<link>http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2009/11/10/revised-statement-of-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-6182</link>
		<dc:creator>GraceJunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am overwhelmed by the beauty of how you described your faith and understanding of it. I as well could copy and paste this and claim it to speak with bravado of my faith. Likely I would feel the need to add something about non-violence and Christ-centric scriptural reading but that&#039;s the anabaptist in me shining through. &lt;br&gt;I applaud your writing and see no reason why there would be anything to contest in it as you approach your final stages. &lt;br&gt;Brother may God bless you deeply as you pursue the path he has laid out for you to follow. Keep your eyes on Jesus, speak his gospel of grace boldly to the world. It is the wisdom of Christ, which is foolishness to us, that will bring people to their knees in awe of how amazing God is. It is only by the guidance of Holy Spirit that we can fully walkout our faith. God has clearly anointed you to carry his message of love to the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew,</p>
<p>I am overwhelmed by the beauty of how you described your faith and understanding of it. I as well could copy and paste this and claim it to speak with bravado of my faith. Likely I would feel the need to add something about non-violence and Christ-centric scriptural reading but that&#39;s the anabaptist in me shining through. <br />I applaud your writing and see no reason why there would be anything to contest in it as you approach your final stages. <br />Brother may God bless you deeply as you pursue the path he has laid out for you to follow. Keep your eyes on Jesus, speak his gospel of grace boldly to the world. It is the wisdom of Christ, which is foolishness to us, that will bring people to their knees in awe of how amazing God is. It is only by the guidance of Holy Spirit that we can fully walkout our faith. God has clearly anointed you to carry his message of love to the world!</p>
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		<title>By: GraceJunkie</title>
		<link>http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2009/11/10/revised-statement-of-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-6000</link>
		<dc:creator>GraceJunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am overwhelmed by the beauty of how you described your faith and understanding of it. I as well could copy and paste this and claim it to speak with bravado of my faith. Likely I would feel the need to add something about non-violence and Christ-centric scriptural reading but that&#039;s the anabaptist in me shining through. &lt;br&gt;I applaud your writing and see no reason why there would be anything to contest in it as you approach your final stages. &lt;br&gt;Brother may God bless you deeply as you pursue the path he has laid out for you to follow. Keep your eyes on Jesus, speak his gospel of grace boldly to the world. It is the wisdom of Christ, which is foolishness to us, that will bring people to their knees in awe of how amazing God is. It is only by the guidance of Holy Spirit that we can fully walkout our faith. God has clearly anointed you to carry his message of love to the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew,</p>
<p>I am overwhelmed by the beauty of how you described your faith and understanding of it. I as well could copy and paste this and claim it to speak with bravado of my faith. Likely I would feel the need to add something about non-violence and Christ-centric scriptural reading but that&#39;s the anabaptist in me shining through. <br />I applaud your writing and see no reason why there would be anything to contest in it as you approach your final stages. <br />Brother may God bless you deeply as you pursue the path he has laid out for you to follow. Keep your eyes on Jesus, speak his gospel of grace boldly to the world. It is the wisdom of Christ, which is foolishness to us, that will bring people to their knees in awe of how amazing God is. It is only by the guidance of Holy Spirit that we can fully walkout our faith. God has clearly anointed you to carry his message of love to the world!</p>
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		<title>By: Faith Statements &#124; Anglimergence</title>
		<link>http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2009/11/10/revised-statement-of-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-5996</link>
		<dc:creator>Faith Statements &#124; Anglimergence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Drew went and did it and made me feel humble and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Drew Tatusko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Tatusko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. thanks. i will need to re-read this a few times to soak it all in brother. a lot of wisdom here from you and angela for which i am very grateful. peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. thanks. i will need to re-read this a few times to soak it all in brother. a lot of wisdom here from you and angela for which i am very grateful. peace.</p>
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		<title>By: angelaharms</title>
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		<dc:creator>angelaharms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to hear that you aren&#039;t attached to the results. What you believe is beautiful, but it&#039;s just so not about &quot;right doctrine.&quot; Even if they decide they like what you have to say, as long as they&#039;re about doctrinal tests, they&#039;re barking up the wrong tree. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, I love the lack of pronouns. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m glad to hear that you aren&#39;t attached to the results. What you believe is beautiful, but it&#39;s just so not about &#034;right doctrine.&#034; Even if they decide they like what you have to say, as long as they&#39;re about doctrinal tests, they&#39;re barking up the wrong tree. </p>
<p>And, I love the lack of pronouns. <img src='http://notes-from-offcenter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gideon Addington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon Addington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like much of the time, I&#039;m left speechless at your work, Drew.  I could copy and paste this and make 99% of it my own statement of faith. In fact I&#039;ve already saved it so that I can print it out and read it later as it provides a synthesis of viewpoints that I&#039;ve not been able to work out as organized and systematically as this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But that&#039;s not terribly helpful.  That&#039;s really about me, and that&#039;s not the point.  What do we do with this?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The sad thing, and you know this, is that as far as your mind and ability to express yourself goes you are exactly the sort of person the Church needs.  I can&#039;t speak to your pastoral ability or anything else involved in the job.  But you think beautifully and you inspire well.  But you provoke, you&#039;re right where the Church needs to be in its ability to re-evaluate and repurpose itself, able to look critically at itself and go &quot;what the fuck did we do to ourselves for the last 1900 years..&quot;  And of course, the problem is that very people want that and have the courage to face that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;William James, I believe, remarked on how little we do unless we are absolutely pressed.  The church desperately needs healing and unfortunately, by the time it is absolutely pressed it will be too late.  I think, and of course I think because I&#039;m in this camp too, that this path of passionate engagement with critical re-examination is what we need to continue to build the Kingdom, first of all, and (secondly, certainly) remain relevant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I&#039;m sure your call is real... the problem may be that the Church (and I don&#039;t just mean the PC(USA), but most of our institutions) is far too much a &#039;principality&#039; to handle it.  You know it goes for Prophets, and I&#039;m not calling you one, but the prophetic tradition moves still in many voices and we surely live in a magnified Jerusalem.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem that remains is where does one stand in order to promote change?  Do we go off and do our own thing, most likely helping some small amount of people but leaving the rest to wander the wilderness?  Do we enter into the City and scream, unheaded?  I think we have to be careful when me make these decisions... escapism often masquerades as purity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, just my thoughts on this.  It pains me to see you go through this and I wish I could say something more substantial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like much of the time, I&#39;m left speechless at your work, Drew.  I could copy and paste this and make 99% of it my own statement of faith. In fact I&#39;ve already saved it so that I can print it out and read it later as it provides a synthesis of viewpoints that I&#39;ve not been able to work out as organized and systematically as this.</p>
<p>But that&#39;s not terribly helpful.  That&#39;s really about me, and that&#39;s not the point.  What do we do with this?  </p>
<p>The sad thing, and you know this, is that as far as your mind and ability to express yourself goes you are exactly the sort of person the Church needs.  I can&#39;t speak to your pastoral ability or anything else involved in the job.  But you think beautifully and you inspire well.  But you provoke, you&#39;re right where the Church needs to be in its ability to re-evaluate and repurpose itself, able to look critically at itself and go &#034;what the fuck did we do to ourselves for the last 1900 years..&#034;  And of course, the problem is that very people want that and have the courage to face that.</p>
<p>William James, I believe, remarked on how little we do unless we are absolutely pressed.  The church desperately needs healing and unfortunately, by the time it is absolutely pressed it will be too late.  I think, and of course I think because I&#39;m in this camp too, that this path of passionate engagement with critical re-examination is what we need to continue to build the Kingdom, first of all, and (secondly, certainly) remain relevant.</p>
<p>So I&#39;m sure your call is real&#8230; the problem may be that the Church (and I don&#39;t just mean the PC(USA), but most of our institutions) is far too much a &#39;principality&#39; to handle it.  You know it goes for Prophets, and I&#39;m not calling you one, but the prophetic tradition moves still in many voices and we surely live in a magnified Jerusalem.  </p>
<p>The problem that remains is where does one stand in order to promote change?  Do we go off and do our own thing, most likely helping some small amount of people but leaving the rest to wander the wilderness?  Do we enter into the City and scream, unheaded?  I think we have to be careful when me make these decisions&#8230; escapism often masquerades as purity.</p>
<p>Anyway, just my thoughts on this.  It pains me to see you go through this and I wish I could say something more substantial.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Tatusko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Tatusko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is my last stop on a very long train ride. i need closure... it&#039;s where my calling began, i need to persist to see if it&#039;s where it needs to continue. but if i don&#039;t keep at it now, i will always wonder and that would be another shackle you know?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;but don&#039;t apologize for the challenge. it means a lot to me. seriously. keep pushing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is my last stop on a very long train ride. i need closure&#8230; it&#39;s where my calling began, i need to persist to see if it&#39;s where it needs to continue. but if i don&#39;t keep at it now, i will always wonder and that would be another shackle you know?</p>
<p>but don&#39;t apologize for the challenge. it means a lot to me. seriously. keep pushing.</p>
<p>peace.</p>
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		<title>By: angelaharms</title>
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		<dc:creator>angelaharms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep pushing on this Drew, but I just gotta... you don&#039;t seem to me like a man who subjects his beliefs to the judgment of an authority. I just really have a sense that you&#039;re at a crossroads. Will you throw off these shackles and run barefoot into a field of grace, bringing light with you wherever you go? Or will you stick with the &quot;career path&quot; and seeking approval? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wow. Did I just say that? I&#039;m considering backspacing, but I think I&#039;m gonna let it stand. I have great admiration for you, brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep pushing on this Drew, but I just gotta&#8230; you don&#39;t seem to me like a man who subjects his beliefs to the judgment of an authority. I just really have a sense that you&#39;re at a crossroads. Will you throw off these shackles and run barefoot into a field of grace, bringing light with you wherever you go? Or will you stick with the &#034;career path&#034; and seeking approval? </p>
<p>Wow. Did I just say that? I&#39;m considering backspacing, but I think I&#39;m gonna let it stand. I have great admiration for you, brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Statement of Faith&#160;&#124;&#160;Oregon Mountaineer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] come in my ordination process that I think I need to share part of my story. Inspired by my friend Drew Tatusko below is my statement of faith that has been submitted to the Presbytery of the Cascades Committee [...]</description>
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